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@OwnedbyChanter the reply you made was, whether you intended it to be or not, inflammatory and I'm not surprised it got some strong responses. If you make comments like that you have to expect reactions, and I don't think the ones you got were out of proportion. I certainly don't think people are acting like you're personally spreading the virus around, but worried people who are in high risk groups or have people close to them who are are going to react to things you said. Maybe next time read it through and consider how you'd feel if you were in a high risk group before you post?

Anyway, can we all just calm down a bit now, falling out with each other won't alter things.
 
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my friend is flying to Luxemburg this week, if it were me I wouldn't go but she will. As to NHS preparedness, forget it. Yesterday at 12noon they decided to admit mum to hospital, OH drove up got there at 1400. By 1700 they still hadn't a bed. Or an ambulance. In the end they found her a bed in a hospital not the one a mile down the road. Still no ambulance. So OH drove her there and got back to her house at 11pm. When she still hadn't been seen yet by a doctor. similar to sunday when we rang NHS24 at 0830am and a doctor finally showed up at 1030pm.
 
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Ale said:
I really do think we ALL need to do what we can, when we can, to protect the whole nation and perhaps the world. Not just now but always. We should always have the greater good at the back of our minds. Without each other we are nothing really. And this is coming from someone who doesn't really like many other people.
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Completely agree Ale, such a shame there are so many who are selfish and complacent - shopping last night there was a man walked past us coughing, maybe coronavirus maybe not, but he didn't even have the decency to cover his moth with his hand, let alone a tissue and they wonder why it's spreading the way it is!
 
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Completely agree Ale, such a shame there are so many who are selfish and complacent - shopping last night there was a man walked past us coughing, maybe coronavirus maybe not, but he didn't even have the decency to cover his moth with his hand, let alone a tissue and they wonder why it's spreading the way it is!
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That's horrible, shame on people who don't even bother covering their mouths.
 
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newforest said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1237340070803320834

If this is true, this is why it's spreading so easily.
Possibly, all the vulnerable people "should" have stayed away. Now assumung they did, they may now be at risk from all those who went that didn't.
Therefore we actually do not know if we have been in direct contact with someone or not anymore.
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Yes, that type of situation is half our problem for my situation personally.

My OH and I are already avoiding crowds, ive stopped going to London for meetings, we have conference calls where possible, we are avoiding supermarkets, restaurants etc but I do still have to work to pay our bills.

I'm really fortunate that my boss is really understanding, I'm in a relatively senior and trusted position so I can make these decisions myself and I'm supported when I do so - plus, I have a job I can work from home with. I've recently had to spend a week working from home as my colleague I sit less than 2 metres away from went to a large gig. If I wasnt working from home already, I'd have to again as another colleague has been to Crufts.

I'm fortunate to have a really understanding team - but if they didn't tell us they were going to go these places - well it would significantly increase the risk, even though I'm already trying to isolate as best we can.
 
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I just feel we are shutting the door after the horse has bolted.
By the time he's tested positive, everyone he's infected has infected, probably and then they try to do a back track of tracing. But even if you trace, they have infected others by the time you find them and get tested.

I estimated a thousand by this Friday and we are currently 321, that we know about.
 
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@OwnedbyChanter[/USER] the reply you made was, whether you intended it to be or not, inflammatory and I'm not surprised it got some strong responses. If you make comments like that you have to expect reactions, and I don't think the ones you got were out of proportion. I certainly don't think people are acting like you're personally spreading the virus around, but worried people who are in high risk groups or have people close to them who are are going to react to things you said. Maybe next time read it through and consider how you'd feel if you were in a high risk group before you post?

What reply was inflammatory I simply stated if you fall in to a high risk group you should take precautions and that stock piling hand wash and toilet roll was not one of them. I didn't feel I needed to add 'don't go the large gathering, wash your hands more often, get your shopping delivered if you can, don't visit ill or older relatives to me these are pretty obviously clearly they are not.

I did also state I have elderly sick parents. I will not be visiting them any time soon as they are high risk. Not one of you mentioned that.

@Pete's Mum what do I expect people to do.... Take precautions as per my other post.

@carthorse I have never once said that if you feel you have been in a situation that you may have be in contact with some that you should carry on as normal. I have never said not to self isolate. I have said I will carry on until told to do other wise I do not know who has what. If I thought for one second I may have been in contact with someone I would take myself away until given the all clear.

You have all made it sound like I am advocating people travelling around knowing they have been in contact or in a venue that has a known issue carrying on as normal. At no point have I said that. People will carry on, some will not even know that the person next to them has it and they will visit family and friends and pass it on. Those that actively know they have it and continue on as normal are irresponsible and potential causing serious illness and even death. Why would any of you think I would want that.

Just to add we have a calling notice now with immediate activation. Guess I dig out the bio suit that I don't have
 
Just a random thought to myself.

If I see a stallion stroll onto my yard and look lovingly at my herd of twenty mares, I go get him and say "no don't be naughty" and put him in the stable - leaving the door open.
When I next see him next he's cornered three of them and called his friends over! Now I need to get three of them pregnancy tested and isolate the others. I put him back in the stable and shut the door, but the damage has probably been done.
 
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Most people who are vulnerable are already doing those things though OBC as standard.

I am already avoiding public gatherings, work meetings, public transport supermarkets, restaurants, cinema pubs etc. We usually avoid most of that every winter (and all year round, to be honest).

All of that, though could be totally scuppered, if the person at the desk next to me decided to keep calm, carry on as normal and go to a 20,000 person football ground or concert or large gathering of any kind or on holiday to Italy or Tenerife- they aren't doing anything 'wrong' according to NHS or Government guidelines, but it doesn't necessarily mitigate risks to a high risk person or group of people.

Again, I'm not aiming this at you, but my personal experience is that some people do think the risks dont apply to them or 'they'll be fine as it's just a cold, really'.

I'm very fortunate I can work from home, have a great team at work who will tell me if you are going to a large event or something possibly high risk with implications to those who are vulnerable. I can only do so much myself - it has to be team work effort to protect everyone, including the most vulnerable.

I'm really not suggesting, people shouldn't continue to live their lives to the most extent but consideration at a difficult time about whether your actions could have an implication on someone else, could go a long way whilst bearing in mind people can be symptom free for two weeks. The Italian PM summed it up for me 'Everyone must give up something for the health of it's citizens'.
 
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It's a horrible thing and at the risk of sounding childish I wish it would all just go away. But it won't. Just want to say, I hope each and everyone of us on here can stay safe. And those of us like obc who have to do their job in the midst of it - I hope they stay safe. Just like I hope that anyone who is particularly at risk or who lives with a person who is can stay virus free. I'm lucky because Mr T and me are like little hermits mostly but there are situations where we just can't avoid other people - that's life, even though we both work from home. I just hope and pray that people will be sensible and thoughtful towards others.
 
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@Ale look at the treatment for it.

While highly contagious, the condition is, in most cases, not serious and will improve on its own within a few weeks. There are exceptions to this, however, and owners of elderly dogs, puppies and dogs with underlying health issues should monitor the condition closely as it can develop into pneumonia.

The same as us.
 
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I've always been one of those people who my mum always made go to school when I had a cold etc, so I've always gone to work too. We should probably all be encouraged to not do this for any illness to help reduce spread. There is always going to be vulnerable people out there. Even just for common colds?
 
Ale said:
I've always been one of those people who my mum always made go to school when I had a cold etc, so I've always gone to work too. We should probably all be encouraged to not do this for any illness to help reduce spread. There is always going to be vulnerable people out there. Even just for common colds?
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This is one of the thoughts when we move to the next stage.
Not if, when we move.
 
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newforest said:
This is one of the thoughts when we move to the next stage.
Not if, when we move.
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Oh yes, it could be a long time coming though, the government seem to think that by doing next to nothing they are 'containing' it, when in reality I think we are way past that!
Just read a 6th person has died now, a man in his 60's returned from Italy at the end of Feb, but of course he had other health issues such as arthritis, cholesterol and a dicky ticker, the sad thing is his family were told to self isolate and were not even allowed to see him, or speak to him via telephone, he passed away alone in his hospital bed with no one who loved him even able to say goodbye, shame on Boris Johnson and his 'containment' phase.
 
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Oh yes, it could be a long time coming though, the government seem to think that by doing next to nothing they are 'containing' it, when in reality I think we are way past that!
Just read a 6th person has died now, a man in his 60's returned from Italy at the end of Feb, but of course he had other health issues such as arthritis, cholesterol and a dicky ticker, the sad thing is his family were told to self isolate and were not even allowed to see him, or speak to him via telephone, he passed away alone in his hospital bed with no one who loved him even able to say goodbye, shame on Boris Johnson and his 'containment' phase.
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oh golly that’s sad.
 
And yet my friend has gone to the doctors today with a glandular infection, doctor said very very unlikely to be corona. But you should self isolate for 7 days just in case.
 
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