The stupid hunt ....

[BIrish]

oh yes... muckout horses and house,,, only make horses beds though not humans,

can cook, the freshley shot bunnies.... sorry rabbits

*ponders*

Hmmm... she mucks out house and horses and makes Bunny stew (& curry ?)... but do you supply your own bits of blue pipe ?


Any other applicants for the position of lodger in the land of sense and reason.. please forward your CV's.. they would obviously have to surpass JD's to be considered..

 

[mikh]

*ponders*

Hmmm... she mucks out house and horses and makes Bunny stew (& curry ?)... but do you supply your own bits of blue pipe ?


Any other applicants for the position of lodger in the land of sense and reason.. please forward your CV's.. they would obviously have to surpass JD's to be considered..

Ok Me: Blue pipe expert, can canter up behind any moving object and swing and not miss. Do a lovely stew, curry, casserole, pasta with anything that's below me in the food chain...... I can muck out but am no domestic goddess - am also nicer than JD

 

[BIrish]

Ok Me: Blue pipe expert, can canter up behind any moving object and swing and not miss. Do a lovely stew, curry, casserole, pasta with anything that's below me in the food chain...... I can muck out but am no domestic goddess - am also nicer than JD

Oooh.. Interesting.. interesting... How are you with snorkling cows ?

ETA - we are probably totally annoying the other people on this thread.. I will consider your applications on another thread somewhere...

 

[mikh]

Oooh.. Interesting.. interesting... How are you with snorkling cows ?

Excellent, last year in St Luca, together (me and the cows) completed our PADI course

 

[Zani]

..well I don't have anything extra that I can offer above the others for my lodgings, but my horse did apparently hail from Ireland, so he would fit in I am sure!

 

[BIrish]

Excellent, last year in St Luca, together (me and the cows) completed our PADI course

PMSL!!!

..well I don't have anything extra that I can offer above the others for my lodgings, but my horse did apparently hail from Ireland, so he would fit in I am sure!

Ah.. a clever one.. using her connections to get the position.. smart... (all the nice horses start here )

 

[ameliet1971]

But according to the defra site that's not true as they can flush out (chase) an animal with 2 dogs as jaydevon said previously but as you said the dogs can't kill the animal.

I can see how hard it is to write legislation about hunting given the practicalies of following and enforcing it.

Flushing should only consist of up to two dogs forcing an animal from it's hiding place into the open, where by it should then be immediately shot.

If the dog where are allowed to continually chase the animal, this would then be deemed as hunting and become an illegal act.

 

[ameliet1971]

Crikey, I'm away 24hrs.... a lot of feathers being spat aren't there, and yes you are excused for spitting all your feathers, and if you want to go and pick your dolly up now you're more than welcome

Oh and you might want to report me, my two savaging labs just chased a fox down my field....... Infact they do it almost every day because my lovely rural area is littered with them now. Perhaps you might want to come and adopt one of them too...

How immature, it's a pity you couldn't post something a little more constructive

 

[Francis Burton]

its hard to argue the suffering of the fox, if it gets knocked over by a car its left to die a pretty nasty death, maybe it sure be law that its killed proberley,... thats not going to happen,

No indeed! However, I think the idea was to prohibit the deliberate infliction of suffering by humans (who should know better). There's nothing wrong with lions killing zebras 'cause that's their nature and they don't know any better - they're not "moral agents". However, as I said, I doubt the situation, in terms of inflicted suffering, is much different now compared to how it was before - and I'm quite prepared to accept that shooting actually causes more suffering in some cases.

i think hunting is a topic that will never win an arguement for either side, yes our hunts get monitored, we often have the police helicopter about,

Really?? What a waste of tax-payers money! About once a week, a police helicopter buzzes to and fro overhead around where I live (West End of Glasgow) - I hate it!

Us Irish see.. with our bits of blue hose pipe..

You must be referring to another thread that I missed... oh well. So are you going to explain the significance of blue hose pipe? Have to say, I didn't see any when I was over in Dublin earlier this year, for the equitation science meeting at the RDS. However, I was struck by the friendliness of everyone I met there (including horsepeople!).

can i just point out the the animals/food products we use and medicines have made MANY animals life a misery but we continue to use them, i dont think you can condone one thing, but continue to give a use to animals being eaten, used for testing etc.

Good point. You may or may not think this odd, but any opposition I have to hunting is much, much less than to factory farming where, I believe, the sum total of human-imposed suffering is on a vastly greater scale. I don't condone animal testing of cosmetics either, but support use of animals in medical research as long as it's strictly regulated and policed, and every possible step is taken to minimize suffering. I don't mind eating or using animals that have lived a comfortable, "happy" life and have been killed humanely.

 

[BIrish]

You must be referring to another thread that I missed... oh well. So are you going to explain the significance of blue hose pipe? Have to say, I didn't see any when I was over in Dublin earlier this year, for the equitation science meeting at the RDS. However, I was struck by the friendliness of everyone I met there (including horsepeople!).
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Ireland is very friendly am glad you had a nice time at the lecture and in Dublin.. The lectures at the RDS are always very good.. although not blue pipe territory..

The hose pipe thing is a bit of an in-joke from a thread a while ago re naughty horses.. Blue alkathene pipe is often used instead of a whip in many places - not just in Ireland either - it's a handy piece of kit as it makes a hell of a noise with you having to actually hit the horse/dog/cow very hard, is very great for anything that is misbehaving! The noise gets their attention.

I did actually have a bit of blue hose pipe but the dogs chewed it (must get another bit!) .. it's known as the Smacky-Stick in our house..

 

[ILurfSmurf]

Ok Me: Blue pipe expert, can canter up behind any moving object and swing and not miss. Do a lovely stew, curry, casserole, pasta with anything that's below me in the food chain...... I can muck out but am no domestic goddess - am also nicer than JD

but ya see, if you get Mikh, i come too, in her suitcase. I can quite easily look after the house, and am also blue pipe friendly
My horsey is also irish, and also has an irish name! (murphy) so we'll fit in most so please let us come too!


In all seriousness, im not quite sure what happened to this thread.
It started with someone who was asking if her problem was a common one, or more of a freak occurance. Some stated they've never had problems, others told stories of the problems they've had.

Now its spiralled into another typical hunting thread, a slanging match between pro and anti hunting thats already been done to death on about 1,000 other threads.

It still amazes me how on a PUBLIC FORUM people cant just agree to disagree.
pro hunters need to accept that anti hunters probably wont ever change their minds, because they are of that mindset.
Anti hunters need to accept that no amount of nagging and complaining and protesting on a forum is going to change the hunters' minds, because they are of THAT mindset.

I have to say that alot of stuff has been said on this thread that i disagree with (although im neither pro or anti hunting - its mainly 'anti content' i havent agreed with, as i would go hunting if i had the chance - and am planning on doing so next year. Although tbh if all hunting was to stop tomorrow i wouldnt lose any sleep over it!) but im not about to go slagging people off for having a difference of opinion.

Crikey, I'm away 24hrs.... a lot of feathers being spat aren't there, and yes you are excused for spitting all your feathers, and if you want to go and pick your dolly up now you're more than welcome

Oh and you might want to report me, my two savaging labs just chased a fox down my field....... Infact they do it almost every day because my lovely rural area is littered with them now. Perhaps you might want to come and adopt one of them too...

How immature, it's a pity you couldn't post something a little more constructive

tbh - i dont think what she said was any more immature than all this talk of 'popcorn' that nobody gets told their immature for - at least Mikh's post was related to what was going on.!!!!!!

*runs off to contortionist classes to learn how to fit into Mikh's suitcase - i WILL go to ireland *

 

[Zani]

....nobody will ever come out on top

....of this argument!

I don't think anybody is going to change their views based on what has been written here, but I don't think the original thread was about being pro or anti hunt, I read it as being about having a little consideration?

As far as my local hunt goes, they were totally considerate, informing all the yards in the village what was happening and when.

However, on driving down to my fields, I had to stop for a woman on the way to the hunt riding her horse down the middle of the road towards me, and wait for her to turn into where the hunt was starting. I obviously being a rider myself always show such courtesy to anyone on horseback, but also as a rider when anyone waits or slows to me I always thank them. This woman just walked her horse up middle of the road whilst chatting on her mobile phone and never even acknowledged the fact that I sat and waited for her. I think that is the sort of attitude that "rubs people up the wrong way".

Anyone on horseback out and about for whatever reason can be rude, I accept that, but I do think that given the bad press that those who do hunt receive they might put a little more thought into their actions!

 

[kirby]

the only animal i chase Would torture and rip to shreds is my husband!

can i just point out the the animals/food products we use and medicines have made MANY animals life a misery but we continue to use them, i dont think you can condone one thing, but continue to give a use to animals being eaten, used for testing etc.

am off out now peeps... play nicely *is on way to birish*

I have been a full vegetarian for 15 years, i dont buy products tested on animals or with animal ingriedients,i do not buy leather products, and i use natural herbs instead of medicines!

 

[BIrish]

Why the implication that anyone who opposes hunting lets their horses walk all over them too?

Your bravado is commendable

I've just seen this - sorry wasn't paying attention..

I didn't implicate that at all.. you read that into my statement yourself .. ...

Freudian based thoughts about this anyone ?

 

[Mimi + Me]

Well how were they to know you werent with them and just took a different route to avoid jumping the hedges, etc, which many people DO do

The fact that they probably weren't dressed 'the part' might have been a clue

 

[Kc..]

The fact that they probably weren't dressed 'the part' might have been a clue

Someone already pointed out that it's a common occurance for people out hacking to join in with the hunt. Plus i wouldn't have thought they were scowering the countryside to see what people were wearing, they were more than likely looking for something a bit different.

 

[Mimi + Me]

Someone already pointed out that it's a common occurance for people out hacking to join in with the hunt. Plus i wouldn't have thought they were scowering the countryside to see what people were wearing, they were more than likely looking for something a bit different.

Yes, well luckily for HashRouge and her friend they didn't end up joining in, reading her post they could easily not have had a choice in the matter .......

 

[Kc..]

Yep true, i had a simialr situation on my horse (who is a little bu**er out hunting) as they came chargin down one field across the road in front of me then across the field the other side of the road.

God knows how i didn't go with them..

 

[Francis Burton]

Ireland is very friendly am glad you had a nice time at the lecture and in Dublin.. The lectures at the RDS are always very good.. although not blue pipe territory..

It was two and a half days of talks actually, and some practical demos given in the RDS showground. Jack Murphy from UCD organized the event. I had a chance to wander round the centre of Dublin too. I would love to spend more time there given the chance.

The hose pipe thing is a bit of an in-joke from a thread a while ago re naughty horses.. Blue alkathene pipe is often used instead of a whip in many places - not just in Ireland either - it's a handy piece of kit as it makes a hell of a noise with you having to actually hit the horse/dog/cow very hard, is very great for anything that is misbehaving! The noise gets their attention.

It makes perfect sense now - thanks for enlightening me.

 

[Tre]

what i think that would be nice to see is the hunted equipped with shotguns ready for when the hunters want to play, i think its only fair that way and everyone will have to watch their backs then, not just the hunted