Teeth - sedating vs not sedating

Kez is sometimes sedated coz he's a pig. However he didn't require sedation this year thanks to a patient, skilled new female vet (Kez likes ladies!). I'd kick the vet off my yard if they wanted to sedate my other two. They don't need it, it's unnecessary. You do have a choice, you can get someone else to do teeth or speak to the practice manager/partners. I'm sure they have hand rasps they could use. With my last vet I used prior to moving, I laid down the law as bad experiences with a number of their vets meant I'd only allow two or three to treat my horses for routine appointments. They were actually very co-operative. I'm sure you won't be the only client unhappy about routine sedation. It also strikes me as an excuse to bump up the bill!!

They don't charge for sedation so it makes no difference to the cost.
 
I will only sedate if there's a need, not for a well behaved horse having routine work. Any sedation carries a risk so why do it unless you have to?

Exactly this. A sedative is a drug and I won't put any drug into my horses' systems that they don't really need, any more than I want to randomly put unnecessary drugs into my own body. Of course there are times when sedation is necessary but I have to say that of the 150+ horses I've looked after I can count on one hand the number who have been sedated for routine dental care...
TBH if someone insisted on drugging my horse for a routine treatment that they are perfectly capable of having without it, I would be looking elsewhere.
 
Having had to sedate for farrier for the last seven years, I will avoid sedating for anything else where possible. I found the vets always wanted to drug him up, but I got a good edt, gag on and backed into a corner of the stable and he will stand like a doll.
Edts just seen to have a knack for it.
 
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Lovely guy came and tried to do ale without sedation for the first time. Ale reared up and nearly killed us all so he is now sedated and I wouldn't want to try without again.
 
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Jack only had a very light sedation for his teeth a couple of weeks ago. He was actually moving his head around a little so not totally zonked. He always gets a "Special Boy's Clean" ;) after the vet leaves when he's sedated because I've never been brave enough to try him without, but despite being a bit fidgety for his teeth he actually stood stock still whilst I was rooting around his nether regions with warm water!!! :p
 
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Bo never needed sedating until he met 1 particular dentist, so the person doing it can definitely effect how they react.
This one person was an EDT, so they aren't always great, she's very highly recommended around here and insisted both Bo and Jess were sedated for her to work on them. My vet did Bo many times without sedating as did some other EDTs.
 
1 of ours has to have it. He is near 18hh and will walk backwards till he hits a wall then sits down and starts throwing his feet around. Clealry for everyones safety he is sedated!

The others the vet has the sedation on standby if required (our compromise with her wanting to sedate them all and its used for the big horse anyway!) and its never been needed. They are good as gold.
 
That is interesting about the extractions - they must have been straight forward? Did you watch? I ask because years ago J needed a tooth removing and our vets said it would mean a trip to the hospital at Liverpool and literally what happens is they have to remove them gradually by degrees and that it could take a full day. I am not sure if that is because it was twisted or something. As it happens he didn't have it taken out because it wasn't the cause of his infection. I am curious tho. Maybe things have moved on!
I didn't watch he went to the vets because they like to x ray before and after to check they have removed it all. They could have done it at the yard but I wouldn't take any risks with the old boy the risk of sedation on a 25 year old they thought he might colic as they had to give him much to knock him out.

He was fine and came home the next morning.

I thought edt could not sedated due to the control on the drugs and only vets could. Interesting that someone said there edt did
 
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Kid needs sedating as he’s a wily pig. He waits until the vet is elbow deep then whips his head and throws us both out of the way.

He is just jabbed and that’s it done.
 
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The gag that they use to hold horses' mouths open is a serious bit of kit and could cause major damage on it's own if you got caught by it, not to mention with a panicking half-tonne horse behind it. Whatever keeps the professionals safe and makes their job easy, IMHO.
 
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The gag that they use to hold horses' mouths open is a serious bit of kit and could cause major damage on it's own if you got caught by it, not to mention with a panicking half-tonne horse behind it. Whatever keeps the professionals safe and makes their job easy, IMHO.

Totally agree with this. When we moved here I had a chat first with our vet to fill him in on Storm and how she was not happy with things generally involving head and mouth - so we both agreed she needed sedating before the gag, otherwise it could have been dangerous for both of them. A very sensible approach I think.
 
I've always used an EDT rather than the vet because we have one come to the yard and he has a very good reputation. None of the horses on the yard need sedating, not even our Jack who tries to kill vets if trapped in his stable with one. He only rolls his eyes at the EDT and then complies and does what he's asked. I don't know how far the EDT can go with treatment though - I know when one horse needed wolf teeth removing he referred them on to the vet. Is that because the EDT is unable to sedate?
 
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