Why should we wear Hi-Viz whilst out hacking?

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I have to say ithink it's un-fair snapping at people who choose not to wear it, it's there own choice quite frankly and i'm sure they have good reasons which they follow.

In my opinion (being someone who sometimes does sometimes doesn't) if on a good day you couldn't see a horse on the roads i usually ride on then you should get off the road. They are straight and open, then wehn you look at ones with tight bends.. hi-viz doesn't mean you can see through 7ft hedges!

However whenever visibility isn't brilliant i do wear it. And sometimes even when i think its good i do. But someitmes i'm guna be honest i do forget!

Not to mention the fact that most Hi-viz stuff isn't exactly cheap.

totaly agree, im thinking im righting stuff in wrong way.i think i need to go back to school
 
BTW I wear it so the bozoes who don't have the wit they were born with get an advantage, so they' can't miss me! ;)....literally.
 
OK then - three questions.

1. For how long have you held a full driving licence, and is it 'clean'?
2. How many miles a year do you drive?
2. Do you accept that, as a road user of any class, you have a certain degree of responsibility to other road users?

If you are a non-driver, or an inexperienced driver, then I refer you to post number 63 by Mina in this thread.

hold on first tell me who do you think you are talking to? and secondly what do the answears to them questions prove????
are you thinking i dont have a clean licence cos i dont wear hi viz?
do you think iv not been driving for a while?
do you think i drive with no responsability or care?
 
Not to mention the fact that most Hi-viz stuff isn't exactly cheap.

for those who WANT TO but think they can't afford the cost, just an example but there are loads of companies doing this now: tabbard for little over a quid - and that's probably still more than you need to pay if you have a look around.
http://www.ccsdirect.co.uk/yellow-hivis-vest-p-779.html
http://www.ccsdirect.co.uk/hi-visibility-bomber-jacket-p-148.html

Also saw a great bomber jacket at B&Q last week for £19, it was really nice quality, very warm, brilliant for wintr hacking... but they didn't have my size.

Just don't go to a tackshop to get your hi-viz, and you can get it quite cheap.


If you (not anyone in particular - anyone who doesn't want to) don't want to then don't, I'm not going to argue whether "one" should or not.
 
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Sorry but MH is definately is not a child neither has she said she refuses to wear hi-viz. In my humble opinion (MH please don't shout at me) I personally wouldn't leave my yard without hi-viz. That being said I wouldn't leave the yard without a hat either but I see loads of people doing that as well! I do believe in freedom of choice and if MH doesn't wish to wear Hi-Viz then that's her choice, although I will say its a bit double standard of you to make your child wear hi-viz yet choose not to wear it yourself.

Yes I agree that wearing hi-viz will not stop an idiot driver driving too fast or taking unncessary risks. However I can say, with experience, that should you ever come off and end up in a hedge unconscious due to one of these idiot drivers then you'll be happy of the 2 extra seconds it took you to put on a tabard when it takes the helicopter or ambulance 2 seconds faster to find you and provide you or your horse with medical attention.

I'm not having a go at anyone personally with this post so please don't shoot me down in flames.

lol i wont lol iv got no shots left.
thank you for jumping on me, and thank you for the way you have wrote that.
i dont ride out with my daughter, infact she dont ride on the ride only on way to lesson which is 5 min walk, i make her wear it hoping that ppl will spot she is a child and slow down more than they would if they saw an adult on a horse and sorry but i dont think its double standards at all.
 
oh i forgot to say when its raining i wear very yellow hi viz trousers as not to get wet.so i guess im spotted on wet gloomy days and gusee what they still dont slow down
 
I don't think it is about making ones self invincible, its about taking sensible measures to make yourself more visible. It is not going to stop every accident happening, but there is the chance it will make you more visible from further away, thus giving other road users more opportunity to do something about it.

KC - out of interest what would you class as a good day? As in a day where you would be less likely to wear hi vz?

I don't think it is down to being a good driver. I class myself as a good driver & a sensible one, but I would still prefer to have as much warning as possible when I am about to drive around a rider/cyclist. That way I can adjust my driving to suit without having to do things last minute.
 
Could i also add another thought please ....... :o

Motorcyclists! Having been in a near collision with one one a country lane a few years back, the rider was wearing black, on a black bike, no lights, at dusk, i know how scary it can be and its not nice.

But MOST motorcyclists will wear colourful leathers or buy a colourful bike so as to be seen - the responsible thing to do. Why is riding a horse considered so different ?
 
Not to mention the fact that most Hi-viz stuff isn't exactly cheap.

Oh come on!

Maybe if you buy from posh tack shops it's epensive - but if you go to a pound shop, a builder's merchant, a bike shop, Lidl, Tesco on-line, a market and any one of a dozen other places, you needn't pay more than a couple of pounds for a waistcoat or tabard, and the same for leg/arm bands. You could use another waistcoat or bands to cut up and make into a hat band or cover, and/edging for an exercise sheet, or covers for reins and bridle parts.
 
This isnt just about a personal choice not to wear it though what about the driver of the car who might hit you because its a bright sunny day the sun is shining in their eyes your riding next to hedge your horse spooks into the road right in front of said driver, the person was driving in the correct manner but because of the bright sunlight couldnt see you in time. That person has to live with that forever and if it ended in fatality could go to jail or anything it wasnt their choice for you to be selfish and not wear it. It is very narrow minded to say well its my choice im the one who has to face the consequences, NO, other people would have to aswell
 
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hold on first tell me who do you think you are talking to?

From the petulant tone of your posts, it would appear I am 'talking' to an immature person with an attitude problem. However, as we all know, written communications on the internet are very subjective.

and secondly what do the answears to them questions prove????

I don't think I implied anywhere that there was any proof of anything, anywhere, expected or required. They were asked out of interest only.

are you thinking i dont have a clean licence cos i dont wear hi viz?
do you think iv not been driving for a while?

You are becoming illogical; I made no such statements as to what I do, or do not, 'think', and would thank you not to imply that I have done any such thing.
Please re-read my post - I merely suggested that if you do not have a licence or are an inexperienced driver, that you look at Mina's post number 63 in this thread.

do you think i drive with no responsability or care?

Again, please re-read my post. I made no mention of what I may, or may not, think. I do not even have any idea as to whether or not you drive. I merely asked if you accepted that you, as a road user of any type, have a responsibility towards other road users. This is a fairly simple question, is it not? Why do you have a problem in answering it?
 
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