What puzzled me is that the Wintec is the only saddle she tried and the only one she said would work. I bought it new and was/am happy to pay. I accepted the Wintec initially because although it was the only one she tried on him she said it fit well. So I was happy with that. But yesterday when I said I didn't really like it she said there was no other option without going for made to measure. I assume it's the only one she actually sells! But she should have made that clear imo. I would never have gone with a fitter who had such a limited stock available to her.