Planning permission for field shelter

Well this is already a ‘no go’ 😟
Spoke to a lady in planning who told me which form to fill out, and how much the fee would be - £94.00 as a field shelter is classed as agricultural.
All good. So I fill out the forms, take several photos and measurements, find a field shelter I want and email everything over.
They rang me back today to take the fee. Because it’s for horses, it’s not agricultural, but minor development and the fee for someone just to look at the form, photos etc is actually £575.00. The actual planning fee itself would be in the thousands.

I can’t afford to throw away over £500 just for someone to tell me if I can put up a shelter on my own land.

so, it’s now back to the drawing board to work out how I can convert existing stables to a shelter and use temporary fencing to ‘guide’ the ponies to it from the field I actually wanted to put the shelter in.
 
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Myfellpony said:
Well this is already a ‘no go’ 😟
Spoke to a lady in planning who told me which form to fill out, and how much the fee would be - £94.00 as a field shelter is classed as agricultural.
All good. So I fill out the forms, take several photos and measurements, find a field shelter I want and email everything over.
They rang me back today to take the fee. Because it’s for horses, it’s not agricultural, but minor development and the fee for someone just to look at the form, photos etc is actually £575.00. The actual planning fee itself would be in the thousands.

I can’t afford to throw away over £500 just for someone to tell me if I can put up a shelter on my own land.

so, it’s now back to the drawing board to work out how I can convert existing stables to a shelter and use temporary fencing to ‘guide’ the ponies to it from the field I actually wanted to put the shelter in.
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those are the sort of fees we had to pay as it is change of use
 
Sadly this is what my friend has discovered. It seems pretty stupid that you can within reason have sheds for agricultural, but a horse isn't.
The only possible on that is if you actually use the horse to plough!!

As for shelter, think of trees and hedges, mine doesn't have access to man made, but she has access to trees and hedges. She chooses to turn her bum to the worst of the wind, so where does your wind mainly come from and plant a few trees/bushes to act as a windbreak.
Also if you have an old trailer that will also act as a windbreak.
 
It’s madness isn’t it? The same person will come out, look at the same site for the same type of building, but because it’s for horses and not sheep, they want 6 times the fee.

I did think about hedges, but they take a while to grow OR the fast growing ones need too much annual maintenance. We have trees and bushes running alongside the school which belong to a neighbour and they are an absolute pain!
 
diplomaticandtactful said:
adopt some sheep and get a small holding number
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Probably cheaper to apply for planning!

Before you do anything else make sure your land is equine use rather than agricultural, get that wrong and you could be in a mess and end up being told to move your horses. Yes the law is an ass, but sadly that doesn't stop it being enforced.
 
I know planning authorities have their guidelines that they have to follow but really truly, if you can't put a field shelter up in the countryside where can you?! I had so many problems when I lived south getting mine sorted. I actually said to one of the planners "if stables don't belong in the countryside, then where do they belong"?! I mean, you can hardly put one in your back garden can you?! Sometimes I give up I really do. It's bonkers. Yet they allow all manner of eye sores throughout the land when it suits them.:rolleyes:
 
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Sorry to laugh but they cant even classify the building correctly. When even the people that sit in the office are advising the wrong cost. There is no hope.
If its agricultural have you had any livestock on it other than horses. You might have a holding number if you have. Holding numbers didnt cost anything to obtain. Id go back to the idea of temporary stable on skids. So no pp in theory. Get yourself a couple of sheep to live in with the horse. If you got a goat they definitely require shelter.
 
I’d love to get a goat or two !! Been banned though cos we’ve been told they’re lots of trouble.

I honestly don‘t know what it’s classed as, I will need to look at the deeds. Horses have been kept on there for the last 15 years though at least, and the council do know as there was a complaint that the previous owner was running a Livery yard which definately isn’t allowed. Someone came out to speak to the owners and they had to go through the history of each horse, who owned it, etc to prove it wasn’t a livery yard.
 
I borrowed some goats last summer (to deal with a bramble bush) and having looked after goats in the past expected trouble, but the golden gurnseys I borrowed were fabulous, no bother at all, no escaping and very personable. Another friend got a couple of kids this summer and they’re just the same, their boer is a PITA though. GG are worth considering 😉
 
It's bizarre that to get round the planning you have to include other animals.
You shouldn't have issues with a shelter if you said it was for a farm animal, though you need to show the farm animal is actually on site.

It could be worth checking before you rock the boat as it were, if you have grazing for horses. Just because there are stables and horses have been there, doesn't mean someone applied for change of use from agricultural to horse. Largely because they probably didn't know you needed to, and it doesn't sound cheap.
 
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