ok so I guess a lot of people are sick about hearing about the election but I have to say I am very interested to see what happens! What are people hoping for? Blue? Red? Yellow?
The election!
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Yes it's an interesting race, I'm wanting a hung parliament because I'm tired of the old 'party politics' and it would be interesting to see how they cope with having to co-operate! So I'd rather yellow got a significant number of votes.
But I think if anyone's going to win it will be the tories, though due to my own feelings about them I couldn't vote for them, as don't agree for thier overall principles. Although would probably rather them than labour.
Will be mightily interesting!!
But I think if anyone's going to win it will be the tories, though due to my own feelings about them I couldn't vote for them, as don't agree for thier overall principles. Although would probably rather them than labour.
Will be mightily interesting!!
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I voted and we still have SNP!!!!!!! 
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It's going to be interesting to see what happens now doubt there all play nice though.
Don't think the country is going to come out on top which ever way it goes from here.
Sorry I have Issues!It's going to be interesting to see what happens now doubt there all play nice though.
Don't think the country is going to come out on top which ever way it goes from here.
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How unfair is this! I can see why the lib dems get thier hackles up...
Tories 36.1% of the votes, 294 seats
Labour 29.3% of the votes, 252
Liberal Democrat 22.9% of the votes, only 52 seats
wtf??
So, labour get only 6% more votes than lib dem, but labour get 6 times the number of seats?? Stupid 'first past the post' system, not fair. Am definitely for proportional representation.
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Tories 36.1% of the votes, 294 seats
Labour 29.3% of the votes, 252
Liberal Democrat 22.9% of the votes, only 52 seats
wtf??
So, labour get only 6% more votes than lib dem, but labour get 6 times the number of seats?? Stupid 'first past the post' system, not fair. Am definitely for proportional representation.
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The idea of a "balanced parliament" is a lovely idea in theory but what will happen is labour will try and form what will effectively be an "Anti-Tory Coalition " by trying to strike deals with the lib dems, scotland, wales, anybody really so they can....
It's hardly a "balanced parliament" if the losing parties are trying to keep out the party who got two million more votes than them.
That is not democracy in my opinion.
It's hardly a "balanced parliament" if the losing parties are trying to keep out the party who got two million more votes than them.
That is not democracy in my opinion.
The idea of a "balanced parliament" is a lovely idea in theory but what will happen is labour will try and form what will effectively be an "Anti-Tory Coalition " by trying to strike deals with the lib dems, scotland, wales, anybody really so they can....
It's hardly a "balanced parliament" if the losing parties are trying to keep out the party who got two million more votes than them.
That is not democracy in my opinion.
Doesn't appear to be going that way though does it,as Nick Clegg seems to have turned his back on his principles and 'offered' himself to the tories................
People might not 'like' Gordon Brown,but at least the bloke has the courage of his convictions,even if his people skills are a bit lacking shall we say
I am gutted that labour haven't got in,but then I'm a straight forward sort of girl,I'm working class so I'll vote working class,simplez
The sad fact of all this is that the people who voted the tories in (well almost,and certainly kept labour out) are the people they will do the least for.Tories are a class party,they believe in keeping the little person down where they belong,and looking after their own,ie: people with money!! Yet it will have been disillusioned working class people that have voted for them,just because they want a change.'Vote for change' the tories said,should have said vote for spare change as that's all most of us will have in our pockets
Lib dems I take little notice of as they know they won't get in so don't have to back up anything they say,all pie in the sky.Any votes for them are just a vote for the tories,and a vote that keeps labour out.I did think they might be a good alternative to tories if labour had no chance,but I have not been impressed with Clegg's stand so far,how he can even hint at deals to be done with the tories,when their policies are worlds apart is beyond me
I may not agree with what someone say's,but I do respect anyone who stands by what they say regardless,not seeing much of that from the lib dems so far.
Personally, I feel its a great shame that the Conservatives did not get a majority. This country has difficult times ahead to tackle some of the problems of the last 3 terms. What Cameron has achieved is tremendous from such a poor starting point.
Have also edited to say why keep bringing up 'working class' argument? In the days of Clement Atlee yes Labour was all about bettering the lot of the poorer people in society. Those days are now long gone but labour supporters want to keep the old class system hostilities alive to paint a picture that all Conservatives are landed gentry which is frankly tosh! Such generalisation is dangerous and insulting. We are all working for a living and it is in the interest of all parties to look after the voting electorate.
Have also edited to say why keep bringing up 'working class' argument? In the days of Clement Atlee yes Labour was all about bettering the lot of the poorer people in society. Those days are now long gone but labour supporters want to keep the old class system hostilities alive to paint a picture that all Conservatives are landed gentry which is frankly tosh! Such generalisation is dangerous and insulting. We are all working for a living and it is in the interest of all parties to look after the voting electorate.
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No offence but I do feel obliged to point out that a lot of the last 3 terms were spent sorting out the 'problems' left by the tories the last time they were in!! To say that labour caused most of the countries problems is a bit unfair.No-one could have damaged this country more than the tories did in their last spell in governement,and labour spent at least their first term and possibly more sorting out the mess they left behind.
When Labour got in in 1997, the country wasnt actually in any debt!
As much as I appreciate some families faired badly under Thatcher and will always bare a grudge, overall she vastly improved the country's finances after the Labour government brought it to its knees in the 1970s by effectively running it into the ground.
Pretty much the way they have this time.
As much as I appreciate some families faired badly under Thatcher and will always bare a grudge, overall she vastly improved the country's finances after the Labour government brought it to its knees in the 1970s by effectively running it into the ground.
Pretty much the way they have this time.
Umm because it's true
Labour are traditionally a working class party.All that really means is that they do act with the interestes of the averge working person in mind,things like introducing the minimum wage prove that (am I the only one who remembers people having to work for as little as £2.50 per hour back when the tories were last in??),and working closely with the trade unions.Things like tax and pension credits also have been introduced by labour,again to help the 'average' person.
The tories are traditionally a middle class and money party,(even they don't deny that BTW,although they do try and spin it
).This is proved by their policies on taxation,privatisation and attitude to trade unions (despite what they sometimes say).It's not a personal attack on the tories you know (ok will admit I don't like them much!!),if I had money I would possibly consider voting for them,but as an 'average' person labour have done more for me than the tories ever would or could,and are just the most appropriate party for myself and other people like me.The tories might have tried to make themselves more attractive to the 'average' person,but there is no way the tories are a party that has the interests of the working class person as it's priority,that's not dangerous or insulting to say,it's just fact.I am not trying to create working class hostilities,I am just saying that it makes sense to vote for a party that has your interests at the heart of it's policies.I understand that people get fed up and want a change,I just don't think voting for a party that is not going to work in your interests is the best way to go about that.
Anyway I will shut up now,as certainly didn't wish to offend or insult anyone.I have always been a staunch labour supporter,but that is very much based on the fact they are just the most appropriate party to represent me and my ideals,not because I am some militant protester for working class rights and trying to create hostilites,apologies if it came across that way
Here here. Margaret Thatcher was not perfect but she was patriot. She fought Britain's corner hard in Europe only for Blair to give away the concessions she won. This country was financially stable when Blair took over - not something easily acheived after the Labour mess of the 70's. Labour has been running on the taxpayers coffers for too long. An example of this is when Gordon Brown sold the British gold reserves against the advice of the Bank of England when the market was at a 20 year low costing the taxpayer an estimated £2billion!
Sorry Devonlass but when you have governed with a majority for 13 years you cannot shift the blame. Do you remember the 'Education, Education, Education' cry of Blair? Why are more children then ever leaving school with literacy problems when this was his top priority?
There are going to be some tough challenges ahead to put the country back on the right road.
I have some respect for old labour, bringing in the NHS, minimum wage etc but people dont seem to differentiate New Labour
Apart from his mess with the gold reserves and the areas of the country where 1/3 of the population are employed by the public sector which is unsustainable in a downturn....
Gordon Brown raided working people's pensions
He also scrapped the 10p tax rule which affected the poorest paid workers
He also wouldnt abolish stamp duty for 1st time house buyers - the majority of which are NOT posh people with loads of money - they are quite often people like me!
Labour really play on the working class thing but how many labour Mps were caught lining their own nests in the expenses scandle? Perhaps we might expect that from a capitalist party but surely not from a socialist party?
Oh and then there is Tony Blair, the man who was actually voted in. He creates a huge mess, starts a war and then runs off with his barrister wife to make millions of pounds for himself in europe while the country falls to its knees.
I can't believe how many people still believe Labour are for the people.
Apart from his mess with the gold reserves and the areas of the country where 1/3 of the population are employed by the public sector which is unsustainable in a downturn....
Gordon Brown raided working people's pensions
He also scrapped the 10p tax rule which affected the poorest paid workers
He also wouldnt abolish stamp duty for 1st time house buyers - the majority of which are NOT posh people with loads of money - they are quite often people like me!
Labour really play on the working class thing but how many labour Mps were caught lining their own nests in the expenses scandle? Perhaps we might expect that from a capitalist party but surely not from a socialist party?
Oh and then there is Tony Blair, the man who was actually voted in. He creates a huge mess, starts a war and then runs off with his barrister wife to make millions of pounds for himself in europe while the country falls to its knees.
I can't believe how many people still believe Labour are for the people.
Not forgetting the financial crisis of the late 1980s/early 1990's and the miners strike/3 day week of the 1970's where many businesses went under (Conservative governments I think!!?)
No party can claim to have the answers!!
No party can claim to have the answers!!
Was it not new labour who brought in the minimum wage
I am not blind to the problems the country has and has had,but sorry I don't agree that anyone can say it was worse 'for the people' than the last time the tories were in.
Decent hard working people were dealt blow after blow in that time,poll tax,industry privatisation and closure with massive strikes and job losses as a result,frozen pension allowance and child benefit,house repo's,high unemployment,NHS waiting lists,prescription charges,selling off of council housing with no re-building.These are just a few things and not even some of the worst,but they do highlight who mostly get's targeted under a tory government,and how labour,new or old are a better bet 'for the people'
IMO anyway,based on my own memory and experience,and I really am going to shut up now and go play ponies
Oh yes I believe it was Maggie who can take full credit for the miners strike(1984 I believe??) and people having to burn their own furniture just to stay warm.Even 'new labour' can't stake a claim for anything as heartless as that I don't think
Think there are many people involved in that who would consider they faired a bit more than 'badly' under dear Maggie.
Sorry am still not shutting up lol *step away from the keyboard devonlass*
Being of Yorkshire descent with generations of families who worked down the mines and were affected by the strikes, i'm siding with keeping Labour and also agree with the majority of what devonlass has said. BBC radio scotland were reporting on my way home that the SNP have already agreed to side with labour if a labour/lib dem coallition is going to change. Labour cannot be blamed for a global economic crisis. I actually think GB is the best man to get us out of this. Hearing what dear old Cameron wants to do just makes me feel a bit sick, like re-introduce tuition fees for higher education hence cutting off education for the vast majority of school leavers.
People are entitled to an opinion, whether peeps on NR like it or not!
Re the education, maybe that stems from broken britain? i've had parents laugh in my face when i suggest their kids are bright and should attend extra study club to push them further. Coming from homes with little support and no aspirations, what hope do these kids have? and if the blues have their way, university will be cut off to them anyway so they are screwed whatever.
People are entitled to an opinion, whether peeps on NR like it or not!
Re the education, maybe that stems from broken britain? i've had parents laugh in my face when i suggest their kids are bright and should attend extra study club to push them further. Coming from homes with little support and no aspirations, what hope do these kids have? and if the blues have their way, university will be cut off to them anyway so they are screwed whatever.
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