Right, sorry thought you meant the saddle carrying bags but a quick check on shires site tells me they don't seem to sell those now anyway!
Can't comment on the panniers I'm afraid as I have never sold any, I might know a lady who does endurance though who would possibly know, if you can't get any replies on here PM me and I will give you the other forum's web address where you can find her to ask her, Oz
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