got my brown gloves! in fact I was complimented on my interpretation of the breed society's rules. however we came 3rd (out of 3, was MUCH quieter than expected so no individual breed prizes) beaten by a not quite properly turned out and quite naughty welsh section D, but he did have outstanding conformation and paces. However we were also beaten by another new forest. The reason was because mine was too wide behind - they loved him till they saw him trot. i am aware he is very wide behind (picture a bulldog!) but have been previously told that this is not a bad thing, however is there anything i could do to make his gait less noticable, would being fitter and having more schooling help with this? To be honest I'm over the moon, he was such a good boy all day and we were out to gain experience, so coming last was not a big deal, especially when it was due to a valid reason! but obviously i would have liked to have done better! piccies to follow, don't have them online yet!