@diplomaticandtactful I agree with @Jessey , it's the horse that atters not the seller. I was told to avoid Luka, that he was "a wrong un" and that ifI got a good horse from that seller I'd be the first person that had. I'm glad I didn't listen as he's a fantastic horse who was just in the wrong hands (less the seller, more the people he got to work with him) and the friend who told me about him and had seen him when he first went to this man was right, he's very much my type physically and mentally. It's the horse you're buying, not the seller!
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Some of the rough types in Sussex are really evil and I think wrong 'uns of that type occur all over the country. I feel sorry for their horses but I wouldn't look at buying one from them or go near them if I could avoid it. They are genuinely dangerous. The people, not the poor bloody horses!
The Sussex ones were above the law and totally ruthless and nasty, not the sort to mess with. They used to run the trotters along out lane outside our house, one of them overturned the sulky and the horse got loose. I caught it and was so tempted to just hide but had to hand it back to the man. I just said poor horse with an owner like you. I suspect there is something wrong with this mare, she is too good for them, so how did she go so far down in the world, her previous images show a happy horse with a private owner, looking amazing. My heart breaks for her but I suspect I would have a lame horse or her spirit is now damaged. And if you did bloods and ran them and found she was buted up try getting your money back. Years ago I rode a tb and had him vetted, not a nice place. When we vetted him he was hobbling so clearly buted up when i tried him. Vet and I ran for cover, next week he was up for sale and my friend asked why he was for sale and was told due to timewasters and she said oh the ones who vetted him and he was lame. I begged the vet to let me have him but she dragged me out of the yard muttering you wouldn't buy a car with 2 wheels.....i wonder what happened to him, he was so sweet
We get a lot of those types here too, and I would tread lightly, but it wouldn't stop me looking if I felt the horse was right, you don't have to tell them where you are from, or what you have yard or horse wise. Of course if I could already see it's lame in the videos that would be enough to stop me going, but it wouldn't be anything to do with who the seller is.
i run a business from home so if you search on my name the address comes up which is one reason why to stay away. They have started advertising her today on all the usual sites Noreside Mini looked her up on the irish database she is listed but no information on her
If you were warned off going to view and you are already judging the owner, why did you even arrange to go and view.
Perhaps it's worth removing their photo from the forum since you seem to know so much about the owner and don't have anything positive to say. They might actually find your comments since this forum is public.
Perhaps it's worth removing their photo from the forum since you seem to know so much about the owner and don't have anything positive to say. They might actually find your comments since this forum is public.
Going to see one tomorrow 11 year ISH 16'1. Fingers crossed 
Went to see him today, he is a sweet boy. He has remedial shoeing both fronts. Owner hasn't ridden him much recently, thinks he is too big for her. Owner would only walk, she was tense on him. He tends to look at the top right side of the school. He tripped once with her. I rode him in the school at walk and trot, he tripped three times with me but did nothing wrong at the side where he tends to spook. Also hacked him out briefly. He has no shoes on behind, only fronts. He seemed to me to be footsore always walking off the path onto the soft grass. I would have got off him at the furthest point and led him back but it was windy and wasn't sure if he would like my slide down dismount or try to go back home so waited till got him back to the gate and got off there. Felt very sad, I have a horrible feeling he has navicular. He is a nice gentle horse, very kind, walks quite slow. I don't think he is lazy just feel something bothering him, he had ears back in the school quite a lot. Shame he's a nice boy but not for me.
Went to see him today, he is a sweet boy. He has remedial shoeing both fronts. Owner hasn't ridden him much recently, thinks he is too big for her. Owner would only walk, she was tense on him. He tends to look at the top right side of the school. He tripped once with her. I rode him in the school at walk and trot, he tripped three times with me but did nothing wrong at the side where he tends to spook. Also hacked him out briefly. He has no shoes on behind, only fronts. He seemed to me to be footsore always walking off the path onto the soft grass. I would have got off him at the furthest point and led him back but it was windy and wasn't sure if he would like my slide down dismount or try to go back home so waited till got him back to the gate and got off there. Felt very sad, I have a horrible feeling he has navicular. He is a nice gentle horse, very kind, walks quite slow. I don't think he is lazy just feel something bothering him, he had ears back in the school quite a lot. Shame he's a nice boy but not for me.
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Yikes not what imagined UK to be like at all. Cute cottages and fat from grass ponies. Not violent mean horse traders threatening unsuspecting horse buyers' lives.
There's a lot of pastel in the last pic. Pinks and purples are probably a good sign!
There's a lot of pastel in the last pic. Pinks and purples are probably a good sign!
@KarinUS as the owner of a traditional cob, one of the types of horse typically owned by these sorts of people (the others being Standardbred trotters and miniature cobs) I can say that many of the people who have "traditionally" owned and bred traditional cobs are absolutely lovely. While riding Sid I have been stopped by at least half a dozen of the local breeders who wanted to admire him and find out more about him and we've had a friendly and intelligent conversation about cobs. When I had just lost Ziggy, my friend Carol took me to visit some mini gypsy cob foals to cheer me up. They lived on half an acre of awful paddock attached to a mobile home, but they were healthy, friendly and loved.
I haven't met and don't want to meet the people who race their Standard and Half bred trotters down the main roads, or the people who keep 100 cobs on 10 acres without proper food and water. But they do exist.
I haven't met and don't want to meet the people who race their Standard and Half bred trotters down the main roads, or the people who keep 100 cobs on 10 acres without proper food and water. But they do exist.
Sadly they do. I used to pass a field of 30 coloured mares and foals - now all gone. Where?
Went to see Marley yesterday, he is a sweet boy. He has remedial shoeing both fronts. Owner hasn't ridden him much recently, thinks he is too big for her. Owner would only walk, she was tense on him. He tends to look at the top right side of the school. He tripped once with her. I rode him in the school at walk and trot, he tripped three times with me but did nothing wrong at the side where he tends to spook. Also hacked him out briefly. He has no shoes on behind, only fronts. He seemed to me to be footsore always walking off the path onto the soft grass. I would have got off him at the furthest point and led him back but it was windy and wasn't sure if he would like my slide down dismount or try to go back home so waited till got him back to the gate and got off there. Felt very sad, I have a horrible feeling he has navicular. He is a nice gentle horse, very kind, walks quite slow. I don't think he is lazy just feel something bothering him, he had ears back in the school quite a lot with his owner and tossed his head. For once having looked at the videos I can see he went better for me, more relaxed neck and head position. In time i reckon he could have been nice. But he is slow, walks very dainty and the track he was on was mild compared to round here. would need to be fully shod or hoofboots. Just think there is something going on. Owner going to talk to farrier and then vet maybe if she x rays him and we see what's going on, maybe get him over here on loan and see if he comes out of his shell a bit. He's a sweet horse but I like them to walk about a bit faster take you there, I might find him a bit dull. Who knows. Wait and see.
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Spoke to my farrier, sent him the image of the shoes he has on and like me he suspected something serious like navicular. Poor horse. Sad for the owner. Hopefully she will get him properly assessed
Dang...again...You just can't seem to catch a break. One of my geldings is navicular. With correct shoeing it's quite easy to manage, but I would certainly want x rays and a pretty serious price reduction if that were the case. Assuming you'd even consider him with navicular.
It's not the sort of thing you would want to buy with my friend had an eventer and he developed it within a year. She rode him at walk for the rest of his life, got him to mid 20s. But she sacrificed what she wanted to do. IF he had really floated my boat which he didn't who knows, owner is genuine so I think she will investigate it further. He felt really sore the way he was trying to find soft ground and that with shoes on he didn't feel lame not going uneven just pottery and footy. Like Buddy if you took him on stony tracks without his boots on. Very sweet kind horse but slow, I got him a bit more active asking him to stretch - why do all the bridles i ride with on other folks horses have such short reins? - she says he is lazy but i don't think so he is willing he just isn't very active for what is a big horse, my 15hh suze and fleur have a longer more active stride as does Buddy and he is taller than Buddy. Shame will see what she finds out.
I had difficulty when buying new leather reins for Ella. May be due to the size of cow hide? RS rubber type reins seem longer
I remember trying to get some long ones once and as you rightly point out the size is governed by the size of the hide. They can be made longer, look at leather driving reins, but generally there isn't the demand for ridden work and so they aren't readily available. That said most full length reins will allow a horse to fully stretch down if the rider puts the hand forward.
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