Correct bit for Showing a Welsh D (Ridden)

[Crazy Mare]

I have been told that a Welsh Section D should be shown in a Pelham with two reins for ridden classes (M&M or Ridden Section D).

Is this correct?

Thanks,

CM

 

[HJ]

Yes this is correct, no rounding just double reins

 

[xloopylozzax]

unless you are in novice classes, when you need a snaffle

 

[dansmum]

Can I just ask why a pelham and not a double bridle?

 

[xloopylozzax]

cobs tend to have small mouths and not enough room for a bridoon and weymouth combination.
also doubles (or even extra sliphead on rugby pelham) clutter the head, which especially ponies cant carry off aswell

we use a double bridle on my C gelding, but its a fine bridle and he can carry it off- they seem to have come into fashion again tbh

 

[dansmum]

cobs tend to have small mouths and not enough room for a bridoon and weymouth combination.
also doubles (or even extra sliphead on rugby pelham) clutter the head, which especially ponies cant carry off aswell

we use a double bridle on my C gelding, but its a fine bridle and he can carry it off- they seem to have come into fashion again tbh

Thanks for answering LL

 

[Crazy Mare]

Thanks

I'm currently riding my girl in a snaffle so I will speak to my RI about introducing a pelham.

 

[ToG]

If she goes well in a snaffle, that is perfectly acceptable in local M&M classes

I'd rather see a pony who goes nice & round in a snaffle than held in with a pelham (unless obviosuly you're talking open classes affiliate where you will need a pelham really)

Pelham does help create a lovely picture if used properly though

 

[candypony]

unless you are in novice classes, when you need a snaffle

not meaning to hijack the thread p) but would that mean then that if I'm showing, I would have to wear a snaffle for just smaller local shows?
Or does it depend on the rules at that show?

 

[xloopylozzax]

it will say specifically in the schedule, they will have open and novice of the same section if that makes sense

 

[candypony]

ahh yes I get you...but do you have to qualify/do well in something to go into the open section?

 

[xloopylozzax]

no, anyone can go in the open section.

criteria for novice classes is either, not won a class, not winning 3 class, not winning over £10 prize money in the current season, which is a bit of a farce.
usually, the people worth competing against (EG. not pot hunters) wont enter the novice classes after the horses first season (providing it has done well, if it hasnt then they wil enter both for experience )

 

[candypony]

Ahh I see! well its just that I find it a lot easier to soften my horse in something with poll action such as a pelham/gag/double bridle. He has never used his back properly (8 years old) and its proving quite difficult to persuade him sometimes!
So thankyou very much for sharing some of your vast knowledge about showing with us all!
(And sorry to OP for hijacking your thread! )

 

[Dinsarsio]

i Use a striaght bar snaffle which sion goes nicely in any ridden class.

 

[Crazy Mare]

(And sorry to OP for hijacking your thread! )

Not a problem, has been interesting for me too

 

[Crazy Mare]

Loopylozza,

Would you recommend that I enter the novice classes for a first season showing at County level?

 

[xloopylozzax]

enter both if the show runs both, its good ring time and gives you practise against good horses, but not yet seasoned professionals.

i really need to find example schedules dont i!

 

[Crazy Mare]

Thanks

If you can example schedules would be great

 

[xloopylozzax]

NPS offers a large range of classes for the same 'type'- this is the schedule for the summer show (scroll to bottom and click schedule)

so you get your junior classes (upto 18 depending on small or large breed) with novice and open sections
then and also any age novice and open classes (which juniors are also allowed to enter)

some shows also offer classes for home produced ponies (novice and open again)

 

[Daffy Dilly]

My sec D will absolutely not go in a pelham, it's impossible to do even a lap of the ring in one, safely at least.

I use either a double bridle or a snaffle.