Manky hoof problem ... help
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I'm not sure what the vet or farrier 100% know what it is tbh but they are both really good!! It all started in November time his frog were really soft and a stone got wedged in the side which I got out on daily hoof picking, then his back foot in the heel got a massive abscess whereby the vet could put his whole finger in (yuck) then when he looked at the rest of the frog all this manky soft smelly discharge appeared, the vet has debridged it several times (which is really differcuit as he's a big horse and the dope and blocking doesn't always work with him) and I have been trying different treatments. We have tried sugar and iodine then a nappy and wrap, now we are trying meths and potassium(hence the black patches) it's clearly hurting him, he does try and kick and I know he's not like that!!! The other feet seem to of cleared up ...... for now lol I just want something to kill this horrible stuff off and healthy frog to grow, is the white bit healthy?? They are really soft
You need to get the vet back out, yesterday.
The picture isn't that clear but my knee jerk reaction was canker --- pray it isn't ------------
The picture isn't that clear but my knee jerk reaction was canker --- pray it isn't ------------
The vet has been out nearly every other week to him and states there are improvements, I just want to know from other people's experiences what other supplements and or products I can try to speed up this nasty horrible issue?? Thanks
If the vet is out that often & thinks there are improvements with the treatment being used then I'd carry on with them, it's unlikely any over the counter products are going to help & they may interfere with what the vet is doing so I certainly wouldn't try them without running them past the vet first. The only thing I'd maybe suggest is a good vit & min supplement or balancer or something like Formula4Feet (a supplement for feet that also has a very wide base of supporting vits & mins) if he isn't already on one so he has all the nutritional requirements to grow healthy feet & fight infection. If the vet's out that often I'd also be asking him what he thinks it is, I find it unlikely that he doesn't have a good idea & I'd want to know what he thought. Have x-rays been taken to see if there's an underlying cause like a pocket of infection? Many practices now have mobile machines they can bring to you.
He's already on formula for feet but only in the last two weeks, he was on supa hoof but I believe formula for feet is better?!? He had X-rays about a month ago and they weren't concerning. I just didn't know if there was a better and maybe more natural product to speed it up, honey?? Or suda creme thanks
Formula for feet is a good supplement, I gave it to my boy while he was going from shod to barefoot. I would keep doing what the vet is advising . The only other thing that may be helpful and wont interfere with what the vet has given is Noni Juice, it boosts the immune system and I have seen some horrendous injuries on horses that heal in half the time when they are given a few drops of noni juice in there feed. I buy the Morinda Noni Juice for myself and my horses.
Manuka honey is good for healing and anti bac but I too wouldn't do anything without the vets blessing. The pic isn't great but I wondered canker too, which can be a long haul to address and no over the counter treatment is going to produce a miracle cure sadly.
With all due respect, if your vet sees "improvement", I personally would be looking for another vet's opinion.
The house vet who owns the clinic I use is a leg and hoof specialist. He would never tolerate the central sulci looking like that for five or so on-going weeks.
My foundered horse goes every five weeks to the clinic to have the vet's farrier re-set his shoes. I saw one teeny-weeny little white-looking thing between his heel bulbs that I thought was canker. It wasn't but the vet had the farrier trim the heels different and sent me home with pure Gentian Violet. Two treatments and my horse was cleared up.
Your horse has some serious stuff going on. I've been taking care of and paying for my own horses, non-stop, since I was 12. I am 69 and to reiterate, I would not put up with a vet saying what you pictured is making improvement, if that vet had been fussing with it for five weeks.
IF that really is canker, it needs cut out and just from reading credible vet or .edu articles on-line, cutting all of that out is tricky business.
If you have other vet options that are good or a university with an equin extension in the area, pay someone to carry your horse to them
It goes without saying no riding until whatever that is goes completely away
Good luck getting this quickly resolved
The house vet who owns the clinic I use is a leg and hoof specialist. He would never tolerate the central sulci looking like that for five or so on-going weeks.
My foundered horse goes every five weeks to the clinic to have the vet's farrier re-set his shoes. I saw one teeny-weeny little white-looking thing between his heel bulbs that I thought was canker. It wasn't but the vet had the farrier trim the heels different and sent me home with pure Gentian Violet. Two treatments and my horse was cleared up.
Your horse has some serious stuff going on. I've been taking care of and paying for my own horses, non-stop, since I was 12. I am 69 and to reiterate, I would not put up with a vet saying what you pictured is making improvement, if that vet had been fussing with it for five weeks.
IF that really is canker, it needs cut out and just from reading credible vet or .edu articles on-line, cutting all of that out is tricky business.
If you have other vet options that are good or a university with an equin extension in the area, pay someone to carry your horse to them
It goes without saying no riding until whatever that is goes completely away
Good luck getting this quickly resolved
Apologies, I missed that part. I'd still be concerned that this has been going on for such a long time and the vet doesn't seem to know what it is? As Lollykay says, I'd get a second opinion, even if your vet does think it's improving.
I can highly rate this. My pony is on it for no other reason that it improves his condition no end. His hooves are really good according to the farrier and he's not lost a shoe since going from barefoot to shod. I've lost count of the amount of times the horses on my yard have lost shoes in the muddy conditions and he tears about like a lunatic and he's never lost one. Definitely recommend it.
Thank you for your lengthy reply.With all due respect, if your vet sees "improvement", I personally would be looking for another vet's opinion.
The house vet who owns the clinic I use is a leg and hoof specialist. He would never tolerate the central sulci looking like that for five or so on-going weeks.
My foundered horse goes every five weeks to the clinic to have the vet's farrier re-set his shoes. I saw one teeny-weeny little white-looking thing between his heel bulbs that I thought was canker. It wasn't but the vet had the farrier trim the heels different and sent me home with pure Gentian Violet. Two treatments and my horse was cleared up.
Your horse has some serious stuff going on. I've been taking care of and paying for my own horses, non-stop, since I was 12. I am 69 and to reiterate, I would not put up with a vet saying what you pictured is making improvement, if that vet had been fussing with it for five weeks.
IF that really is canker, it needs cut out and just from reading credible vet or .edu articles on-line, cutting all of that out is tricky business.
If you have other vet options that are good or a university with an equin extension in the area, pay someone to carry your horse to them
It goes without saying no riding until whatever that is goes completely away
Good luck getting this quickly resolved
there is definitely a improvement but my concern and for coming on here really is to see if anyone has had this horrid infection/canker before, their experiences and if there's something I'm missing that would aid it to clear up faster. We certainly don't tolerate his feet looking like this and trust me a lot of time and effort has been given to it!! I pay for all my horse needs and he certainly doesn't go without, like I said the vet comes a lot and debridgement has taken place several times, X-rays, trims, supplement you name it he gets what ever he needs and he is extremely well cared for!!! Yes it is very tricky to cut it all out especially with a 16.2 cob x shire who's probably just as wide as he is tall. once you think your on top of it days later it's re appeared!! A professor is too also involved and is also helping with treating it!!
Thank you
Please do not think I was inferring lack of care on your part. We are all at the mercy of our professional horse care givers.
I would still want a second and maybe third opinion. Unless the lighting is skewing the picture, that frog should not look like that after five weeks of treatment -- especially if they performed debridement.
Orrrrrrrr, maybe your vet knows more than he is telling you? Sometimes I think vet's won't say everything they know to horse owners whose horses are more than commodities and we spend ridiculous amounts of money on their good and well being, hoping for a good outcome.
. We are all at the mercy of our professional horse care givers.I would still want a second and maybe third opinion. Unless the lighting is skewing the picture, that frog should not look like that after five weeks of treatment -- especially if they performed debridement.
Orrrrrrrr, maybe your vet knows more than he is telling you? Sometimes I think vet's won't say everything they know to horse owners whose horses are more than commodities and we spend ridiculous amounts of money on their good and well being, hoping for a good outcome.
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