Hip problems and riding western?

Cortrasna

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Has anyone any experience of changing from standard English style saddle to endurance or full western to help alleviate hip problems when riding? Does it help when you have arthritic hips and are at the pre hip replacement stage?

How did you decide that you had gone as far as you could without hip replacement and what made you decide to go ahead with the op?

Just recently I struggle to even get on or off using my lovely custom made mounting block....and I have to say the ride is becoming increasingly painful. If you have had one or two hips replaced how long before you were back in the saddle and would you say it has made a difference to your riding and pain level?
 
Hi :) Nice to see you again.

Sorry, I have no experience (yet), but I love that your main concern about having a hip replacement seems to be how much your riding will be affected.

I hope you get some sensible replies and that you manage to sort your pain out one way or another.
 
Friend has RA and Firbromylgia, she's changed to Western riding,

Another friend years ago had two hip replacements and carried on hunting twice a week into her late 70's.
 
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Nice to have a post from you, tho sad about your hip and the pain. I had a phone call from an old friend suffering too. She says she cant sit and standing is wrecking her feet. She is on pain killers all the time and would like a replacement operation but isnt yet bad enough to qualify on the UK NHS.
However, my doctor daughter feels that people we know who go private for joint replacement, take the step too soon because the surgeons etc get paid - and the results arent always perfect.
I cant advise on hips and Western saddles. And I dont know how your riding is affected by your hip. Things vary so muchg case by case. Unlike Frances who has a back problem, my own back does not respond well to simply sitting long term in the saddle. Rising trot helps me a lot. That means Western riding doesnt feel as good for me as normal UK. Tho I need an old fashioned, open, GP saddle, none of your fancy knee blocks.
My OH has sort of stopped riding -He started by learning Western and I think he might be more secure on a bouncy horse if he had learned to ride forward seat in canter. But you dont do that in a Western saddle.
I suspect that Western saddles tend to be wider as well as heavier to lift on and off the horse - neither of which helps an older rider like me.I need a narrow horse. And I think your Dolly would be too wide for me.
However, an endurance saddle might have none of these drawbacks.
On the other hand, I know from reading Isabella Bird and accounts of Bill Dorrance (Western pioneer of NH) riding in his 90s that a Western saddle gives more support and security. If my balance were to deteriorate, the open saddle in which I now ride might become too open, allowing me to slip sideways?

I have thought about this a lot because one problem of getting old and riding is that one takes more care - I posted recently that after going on a one hour hack in walk only - just to get confident on a new horse, I could barely dismount and was very stiff the next day. If your hip means you need to sit still on the horse, then it is going to increase dismounting problems perhaps?

I hope you can find a solution through RDA or a larger forum? I almost gave up riding last autumn but then was paired up beyond my dreams with my teacher's horse who has lovely tack. My share too was an RI's personal horse with her own high quality saddle and bridle. And as an RS rider I have also had the chance to ride a variety of horses in different saddles. If you have access to a yard with lots of horses maybe they could let you sit on some of their saddles?

I think it is very easy to stop riding when one gets older - We like things we are used to and feel safe with them.
 
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Hello Cortrasna, lovely to hear from you again. I can't offer any help, my hips are about the only bit of me left that doesn't hurt, just wanted to say so sorry you are suffering and I really hope someone will come up with some useful advice for you.
Hope Dolly the donks and Mr C are all well x
 
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No personal experience (my hip pain is SI) but western saddles tend to have a much wider twist than English, so can put more strain on hip joints and cause discomfort and they also have different stirrup positions depending on the discipline they are designed for, from very forward to right under the hip and some are quite fixed and others very free swinging. The saddles designed specifically for women normally have a narrower twist so might be more suited, i guess ot depends what it is specifically that causes the discomfort?
 
It is hard to say. Two of my friends tried riding once after hip replacement and said it felt impossible, another at 70 has returned to SJ and hunting after 6 months break but says she will never ride another horse than her trusty old faithful.

A far as saddles go I would have thought the higher pommel and cantle on a Western one would make mounting and dismounting more difficult.
 
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another at 70 has returned to SJ and hunting after 6 months break but says she will never ride another horse than her trusty old faithful. .

Never say never eml. I wouldnt bet on it. I felt like that about Maisie and still feel it inevitably. But if someone thrusts a nice horse in the direction of a bereft lady rider, even one in their seventies, curiosity and flattery may get the better of her.
I would in any case Cortrasna allow it more than 6 months before you decide against riding. It is easy to think because one is old that how you feel after an operation is inevitable aging. A year after my serious appendix op I was still not back to normal. And did not expect that to change. But two years later, I was as good as before the op - apart from being two years older.
 
Oh I have absolutely no intention of giving up! I am just looking of ways around the current pain problem and how I might expect to feel after a hip op in comparison to how my pain level is now. And if totally changing to western or endurance style of riding might help or might not. I have no knowledge of riding with pre new hip op or after.

I have ridden western a lot in the past as I have a couple of quarter horses and a TWH and do have some knowledge of that style of riding - and I have to say the gaited saddle I rode in most of the time was very, very comfortable despite already having lower back problems, BUT I didn't have hip problems then so not sure it would be the answer today - but it did strangely have a narrower twist than my normal gp saddle? The quarter horse saddle I had was a real hip and pelvis opener so that wouldn't help at all.

A friend has lent me a Canadian endurance saddle to try it has the low horn and not too high cantle - I tried it on today just getting on and off and have to say, weirdly I had no problem throwing my leg over the cantle or getting back over it, as I do struggle in my GP, still quite painful but not unbearably so? Very odd.

My lovely old chap is determined that I shall keep riding also (he knows how impossible to live with I am if I can't ride lol!) Today he did a temporary job of making the mounting block higher - it certainly helped and this week he is going to make it permanently even higher so I literally just step across and over if you see what I mean.

Thanks so much for all your comments and advise, all thoughts are being taken on board and would welcome any more ideas.
 
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Thanks Joellie - we are still on week one of riding out in walk and so far she is sound as a pound - next week I will be introducing a little bit of trot work, and she is absolutely ready for that right now, the cheeky old mare! ;)
 
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We have a substantial walk way round the house which varies from grass level to about 4 foot. I have had to incease the height I mount at from stirrup level to virtually wither level, (the same as we use for a wheechair user) The biggest issue for me is getting on, off still seems to work. GP just says load up on ibroprufin before and after riding and have help to mount. Very restrictive but we do have a selection of horses that will stand all day while fed!! I tend to chose the narrower ones and use a narrow twist old fashioned dressage saddle with low cantle and pommel and no knee/thigh rolls so I can move legs around easily if neccessary.
 
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Thanks Joellie - we are still on week one of riding out in walk and so far she is sound as a pound - next week I will be introducing a little bit of trot work, and she is absolutely ready for that right now, the cheeky old mare! ;)
Great to hear . She must be feeling good if she is cheeky :p;)
 
What does a narrow twist mean? Sorry but still ignorant of so much. Excellent that you are riding eml - I thought you had stopped?

Cortrasna - the suddenly being able to mount mystifies me too. Young woman suddenly expected me to mount Grace from a normal plastic mounting block - quite a small one - and I have now twice managed. I put it down to summer weather - I am much looser in my body, and to summer breeches. Makes it easier to bend closely at the knee and get your foot in the stirrup. Once I had done it, it was expected as the norm. My heart does really sink.
 
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@Cortrasna my YO who is in her early 60s has had 2 hip replacements, I think on the same hip! Each time there has been a fairly lengthy recovery period but she has found herself better able to ride after the operation than before (because her hip had been so painful). So I think everyone's experience is different.
 
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Hi I had a hip replacement coming up 4 years ago and I bought my first horse 2 years ago - she is 16.3 so I use a mounting block or top rung of fence! I rode up until 2 weeks before replacement but didn't realise how bad it had got until after the op! I dosed myself up before getting on with painkillers & ibuprofen. My GP was fantastic and recommended a surgeon who did replacements for riders. My present GP is horrified I still ride! I wish I'd had surgery sooner.The main issues are psychological as a fall now worries me (especially from a 16.3!) so I invested in an air jacket (I know it won't protect my hip as such but it helps mentally!). The other issue was I couldn't have a horse that 'rides wide' which ruled a lot of cobs out. Mine is ID x. I was riding 3months after surgery with an uncemented hip - believe it can be sooner with a cemented - but it wasn't comfortable so waited a bit longer. All depends on the individual I suppose. I think western may be good - I know I ride with longer length stirrups now even when jumping :) but I think until you have the replacement you need the horse not too chunky or wide and dose up and hopefully you will be fine.:)
 
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Thanks RTW - yes I am dosing up to ride but really don't think it is making too much difference lately so probably time to accept the inevitable. A friend said the same about not realising just how bad it was until she finally had the op and after about 3 months she couldn't believe what it was like to ride pain free! Oh well shall bite the bullet and back to the GP I think to see how long the referral would be - had the scans etc. last year so just need to be referred back to the specialist I think to let him know I am now up for it lol!
 
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