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On a lighter note.
Have you ever watched a police officer trying to catch any kind of animal when they are not animal people. No disrespect to any who might read this, but they can be really entertaining.
I don't think catching loose animals is up there in their training and when some of ours got out we handed the quiet one (so we thought) to the poor chap who was then taken for a nice walk, the other way.
On that occasion we had tags on all the rugs at the front. Really simple and easy for them to see.
Have you ever watched a police officer trying to catch any kind of animal when they are not animal people. No disrespect to any who might read this, but they can be really entertaining.
I don't think catching loose animals is up there in their training and when some of ours got out we handed the quiet one (so we thought) to the poor chap who was then taken for a nice walk, the other way.
On that occasion we had tags on all the rugs at the front. Really simple and easy for them to see.
Saddle pad embroidered with ICE details. Inch high font can be seen from a couple of metres away.
Believe me i am trying! Since hes been with me hes never been hurting or handled badly, but he still cant be caught by anyone, even with food he will come and stretch for the food but if they move he bolts. So dont think im not trying these things because i am! I let other people handle him, brush him, make a fuss of him, i catch him and leave the field while hes brushed and fussed and put back but he still cant be caught if i am not there and if i am out hacking he freaks out if he sees a stranger, i feel him tense under me, especially if they are walking towards us as few will come stroke him if i ask them too and he calms down. I dont know how he is going to react if hes spooked and bolted already and ive been floored, even if hes trained and fine with other people u still dont know how theyl react if something scared them so badly they get in to a panic and loose all sense of reason, because it does happen! Can only hope and think about if someone did catch him. Ideal situation would be he stays with me or near by and lets someone approach him and keep him safe! No one can say what will happen in that situation! Im just trying to think of helpful things for people in that situ!
I'd really suggest you get some help from a professional if he's that bad & nothing you've done has helped. A different approach may make a difference, just try to get recommendations & ask questions before arranging a visit. Maybe speak to charities specialising in rescues to see if they can recommend someone who deals with this sort of problem? If he reacts that badly to strangers how do you cope if he needs vet treatment or, God forbid, needed hospitalising?
I second this completely - all of the rescue horses I have here each summer are as OP describes her ponys behaviour - but only when they first arrive in from horrendous abuse and starvation at the hand of humans. Most are already well on the way to a calmly trusting all humans again and allowing all handling by anyone who has even a vague idea how to be around horses. Those who come to me in the spring that are newly rescued do take a few weeks of intensive interaction and handling but by the time they go back to winter quarters at the rescue's main farm they are as polite and calm to handle as my own Dolly is.
This pony and or owner really would do well to seek professional help and a decent local rescue would be a good place to start. It is grand to have a tight bond with your horse but not to be boasted about if that bond is at the risk of other people and the horse's safety and future. I wonder OP, if you are unintentionally reinforcing the pony's behaviour by your rigid assumption that the pony will only allow you to catch it etc. and how difficult and scared he is for anyone else ?
I have only ever known two horses that behaved as described by OP despite attempts to re educate them - one was eventually shot as it became too dangerous to be accepted on any livery yard - the other one spent its days almost totally unhandled and abandoned in a field when its owner grew bored with the novelty of horse ownership..
'No one can say what will happen in'
If nobody can catch him when he calm in the security of his home environment and he is physically/ mentally showing signs of stress if you meet people out of it, I wouldn't be riding this horse on its own on the public highway.
You can choose to listen to that statement or not.
You either have a big problem or you are making a little problem sound bigger than it really is. Your choice of words is usually dramatic, 'freaks' suggest a very scared horse. One I wouldn't want to be sat on.
If nobody can catch him when he calm in the security of his home environment and he is physically/ mentally showing signs of stress if you meet people out of it, I wouldn't be riding this horse on its own on the public highway.
You can choose to listen to that statement or not.
You either have a big problem or you are making a little problem sound bigger than it really is. Your choice of words is usually dramatic, 'freaks' suggest a very scared horse. One I wouldn't want to be sat on.
Freaks as in does his giraffe neck, tenses up... Been hacking him for nearly 2 years on his own and im still here. Doesnt matter what i say il be jumped on and attacked. Have u got nothing better to do? All i wanted was some ice cards, seen them before on fb, no longer have fb so cant look for them again
hes dangerous, im a bad owner etc etc whatever dont care - thats to u new forest (why u replying on my post when u said u wouldnt anyway?) not everyone. Thanks everyone else for your help
hes dangerous, im a bad owner etc etc whatever dont care - thats to u new forest (why u replying on my post when u said u wouldnt anyway?) not everyone. Thanks everyone else for your help
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Hes ok with the vet, the male one he tenses up with and gets a but dancey on his toes but soonsettles down after the vets stroked him, the female ones that come to do the jabs hes ok with as seen them often, fine with farrier. Was a prat for the new dentist (usual one has moved abroad) but eventually calmed down when he realised what the man was actually there. Nothing too crazy just running in circles on the lead rope... All this is progress from when i first got him and when the farrier got out of his car he would be gone and no one would hold him and if anyone tried to catch him again he would fling his back legs out at u, rear and front strike... I specifically worked on getting him to be ok with the important people,,, vet, farrier, dentist... They took priority... He lets other people lead him now (after i have caught him) and doesnt run off or run behind me and try and hide his face in my back. He will probably work out not everyone is an evil cold hearted so and so one day and hopefully what i am doing with asking some people to approach and give him a fuss and having different people groom him and handle him will help... @Aln knows him and can catch him, he trusts her but she isnt a stranger and my nephew who is 5 (just turned) can walk up to him in the field and he will put his head down for my nephew to put his head collar on and walk slowly behind him, even stops when my nephew drops the lead or stops when my nephew stops.. Always staying a few feet behind him. Worth his weight in gold just for how he is with my nephew
@Prjsmk there's no need to be rude to people. Read back your posts as though it wasn't you posting them, wouldn't you be very concerned? And if this is the situation after 2 years or more of ownership then clearly whatever is being done isn't working - it's one thing going slowly but there comes a point where significant progress should be seen, particularly in such a basic area.
For what it's worth I wouldn't say doing a giraffe neck & tensing up was freaking, my welshie will do that if he spots something a bit out of the ordinary or that he wants a better look at but I'd say he was actually a very solid hack. To me freaking suggests something far more dramatic, maybe trying to whip round or rearing or becoming so panicky that they switch off completely then explode. By your definition I know lead rein ponies that freak!
For what it's worth I wouldn't say doing a giraffe neck & tensing up was freaking, my welshie will do that if he spots something a bit out of the ordinary or that he wants a better look at but I'd say he was actually a very solid hack. To me freaking suggests something far more dramatic, maybe trying to whip round or rearing or becoming so panicky that they switch off completely then explode. By your definition I know lead rein ponies that freak!
The way we speak is different, doesnt explode... Id have said explode or goes mental/bat s**t crazy, difference in The words we use for different things
I wouldn't consider doing a giraffe neck and tensing up as freaking either, that's just maybe a little anxiety or being aware of something. Freaking is something a bit more dramatic in my mind, as @carthorse suggests.
And if we identify these differences, we don't get confused in future. it was just an observation that I too see it differently from you.
No idea why I bothered answering because you have been consistently rude to me.
I think you will find my first post gave some helpful suggestions. It's you choosing to dig at me.
http://www.icecard.co.uk -this took seconds to find. There are lots of companies actually.
Jaysus Christ some people are just too rude to even bother with! Over here we call them 'ignorant' I think that is a good description of someone with zero manners and no attempt to improve them. Yet another thread where poster asks for advice and suggestions and is given a good deal of it from well meaning members - then rejects all those suggestions to up the drama level and not even bothering to reject them politely, and this time all on a very boring thread that actually could have been resolved by 2 minutes on Google search!
Did i not say thankyou, oh i did yes. This threads so boring u are here reading and replying, must have a quiet day eh. Yes i can google but i ask for recommendations, so if anyone had used a site or had another idea i could use. Some good idea above. Are u commenting to up the drama level, u drama queen u! God i love uJaysus Christ some people are just too rude to even bother with! Over here we call them 'ignorant' I think that is a good description of someone with zero manners and no attempt to improve them. Yet another thread where poster asks for advice and suggestions and is given a good deal of it from well meaning members - then rejects all those suggestions to up the drama level and not even bothering to reject them politely, and this time all on a very boring thread that actually could have been resolved by 2 minutes on Google search!
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