PPID - Breaking my heart

I pay £9.99 for a full kilo and that lasts me about two and a half to three months of him getting 30ml a day

This dose is more for his slight stallion tendencies or herding, teasing, mounting and over protection of his herd over fences. As he winds himself up and loses weight, this helps keep him settled for his own good, all the mounting etc doesn't help his hocks and he's getting a bit old to be repeatedly 'servicing' mares of different heights all summer :oops:o_O:confused:

It will also help him for any rise in levels but last time he was tested he had a very low count, vet wasn't bothered at all.
 
Sending hugs to you and happy, healthy vibes to Raf, I can only imagine how sad all this is making you feel x
 
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A friend of mine had terrible trouble with her mare on Prascend, and for a while managed her on herbs, eventually though they weren't enough & she had to try Prascend again or lose her. Initially she had the same problems, but then the vet gave her a drug to increase her appetite & help with other symptoms & that seemed to get her through the veil & onto a dose that was sufficient to control her symptoms & get her acth levels down. They then tapered the other drug off & she's now fine with her Prascend dose. Might be worth talking to your vet again?
 
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carthorse said:
A friend of mine had terrible trouble with her mare on Prascend, and for a while managed her on herbs, eventually though they weren't enough & she had to try Prascend again or lose her. Initially she had the same problems, but then the vet gave her a drug to increase her appetite & help with other symptoms & that seemed to get her through the veil & onto a dose that was sufficient to control her symptoms & get her acth levels down. They then tapered the other drug off & she's now fine with her Prascend dose. Might be worth talking to your vet again?
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Thanks Carthorse. I will certainly be talking to my vet, although he never mentioned this the first time I talked to him about Raf's reaction - just the break and the agnus castus. I wonder if it was APF that your friend's horse had? It's funny because if you go on the USA Cushings sites it seems to be mentioned quite a lot, whereas on the UK sites it isn't. In fact I didn't know you could get it in this country until Jessey sent me the link.

Anyway it arrived yesterday so I gave Raf his first dose last night. Will let you know how we get on with it.
 
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I'll ask her what it was & let you know x
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Thanks Carthorse I would appreciate that.

Very pleased to report that Raf is much brighter tonight. He's had two doses of APF - not sure whether it works so quickly, but whatever the reason it was lovely to see him looking over his door with pricked ears again. Keeping everything crossed it continues :)
 
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Here's what she told me Bodshi, with a bit of editing to avoid giving away personal details

The drug we gave Name is called Periactin.

What I did was introduce the Prascend REALLY slowly i.e. literally just dust to begin with, alongside the Periactin. It would probably be worth her taking her horse off it completely for a week or so and then reintroducing it very gradually. I think time of day it's given has an effect too. Name was always much less tolerant of it if I fed it in the morning so she always has it in the evening now.

I would highly recommend that the lady gets in touch with Andrea at The Laminitis Site. I was just looking back through our email exchanges when Name was seriously ill last year and I don't think I could have got through it without her advice and support.


I hope that's some help.
 
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Here's what she told me Bodshi, with a bit of editing to avoid giving away personal details

The drug we gave Name is called Periactin.

What I did was introduce the Prascend REALLY slowly i.e. literally just dust to begin with, alongside the Periactin. It would probably be worth her taking her horse off it completely for a week or so and then reintroducing it very gradually. I think time of day it's given has an effect too. Name was always much less tolerant of it if I fed it in the morning so she always has it in the evening now.

I would highly recommend that the lady gets in touch with Andrea at The Laminitis Site. I was just looking back through our email exchanges when Name was seriously ill last year and I don't think I could have got through it without her advice and support.


I hope that's some help.
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Thanks so much for this. Interesting to read about the horse being better with an evening dose. Raf has been having his in the morning because that's what the vet told me to do. Will ask him about the Periactin, in fact l will give it a Google now too. Will look at the laminitis site too. Haven't looked so far as Raf has never hinted at being laminitic so I've kind of glossed over that aspect of the disease.

Please tell your friend thank you from me. I appreciate her help (and yours of course).

Pleased to report that Raf is even perkier tonight


 
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Thanks guys, sorry about the size of the pics - I did them from my phone and they looked fine on there. I really didn't want them to be so blown up because you can see all the cobwebs!

This is turning in to Raf's PPID diary ...

Had a short ride today - took him with YO on her late-cut horse. Raf and her horse have a real rivalry going on - they try to put each other in ditches and usually when we take them out together it's a competition to see who can be naughtiest. Today there was no contest - Raf not at all bothered or wound up by his rival, although he did still have the presence of mind to poo over YO horse's poo - twice - point to Raf! Went down Raf's spooky ride to a field where we could have a canter to see if it perked Raf up a bit, but it didn't. Very odd when we started to canter YO's horse was jumping sideways and letting fly, dying to be off and Raf felt as though he was trying to canter but his body just wouldn't do it. He was kind of bouncing up and down but not going forward and kept falling back into trot. On the return journey he was better - suddenly felt as though he'd loosened up and could canter forwards but there was no excitement, as there would normally be with horse in a very excitable state next to him.

Still, at least he seems happier in himself. He's constantly starving, but he hasn't put on any weight and is taking on the shape of an old horse, with his topline disappearing and his belly dropping. Poor old love, if he were in his 20s I wouldn't mind just retiring him, but I was really hoping we'd have many years of happy hacking ahead of us yet.
 
Was laughing reading about him pooping over the other horses poo! I do hope you still have many happy years of hacking ahead and that this is just a blip that can be overcome.
 
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